Zbigniew Baniewski schrieb:
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 04:44:24PM +0200, Wouter Klouwen wrote:
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> Have you heard of people preferring console mode?
Me :)
And yes you're right Zgbigniew, the whole Term thing is a pain in the 
ass. Especially the whole Keyboard thing with Delete, Insert, Pos1 etc.
Things that are for you and me "essential" are bloated for NetBSD which 
means it ain't going to fixed anyway. We have to live with it or with a 
workaround [binding keys].
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>>>7. Using my favourite text editor - joe 
>>

Yes, I don't use Joe anymore since I moved to NetBSD. Now you know why.
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> Such answer can be given to ANY user of ANY broken package from NetBSD
> packages collection.
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> Is such attitude normal among NetBSD users?

No, the people in this List are very helpful and very friendly.

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>>No. NetBSD comes standard with sh and csh. More then you'll ever need to get
>>pkgsrc and install your shell of choice. tcsh or bash by default would just
>>be bloat.
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> Any more functionality, than obsolete c-shell gives - "would just be bloat"?

Yes, I prefer bash aswell. And sometimes I don't understand, why NetBSD 
is rejecting a 300K shell, but importing other things with a few MB to 
the main system.

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>>mc is anything but essential. A lot of third party applications are
>>available through pkgsrc, and there are prebuilt binairies which may be
>>installed from ftp.netbsd.org, or a local mirror.
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> mc is VERY useful 
Yes it is. Very useful and very fast.
Should be part of the main system. (IMHO).

- and I didn't find prebuilt binary of mc. There were
> compilation problems.

Me neither. Binary Packages are mostly deleted if there are any security 
problems. This is noticed in the Readme file
ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/packages/pkgsrc/sysutils/mc/README.html
But I just built a package for you, which you can download from
here:
http://www.aydogan.net/mc-4.6.1rc4.tgz
Make sure you have all dependencies installed.

Greets and Happy Easter.