Subject: Re: mono experience cutting to subversion
To: Herb Peyerl <hpeyerl@beer.org>
From: Bill Studenmund <wrstuden@netbsd.org>
List: current-users
Date: 02/11/2005 12:33:14
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On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 06:42:36PM -0700, Herb Peyerl wrote:
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> On Feb 10, 2005, at 6:15 PM, David Young wrote:
> >On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 09:34:06AM +1000, George Michaelson wrote:
> >>A longish mail article on mono projects experience cutting over.
> >>http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2004-11/0745.shtml
> >>(noting the GCC is experimenting with svn, and Gnome is rumoured to be
> >>thinking of the jump)
> >Subversion had scalability problems (not just slow, it would *crash*
> >during a checkout) back in December.  I don't think they're solved,
> >yet.  See <http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3D2167>,
> >for example.
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> Looks to me like a bunch of stubborn developers who don't want to=20
> change their ways to take better advantage of a new tool... Not so much=
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> subversion problems...

I'm not so sure. There are probably some folks who just don't like it, but=
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I think most of the comments I have heard are about specific issues in=20
subversion and how do we handle it. Some of them have focused more on the=
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problem than the solution, but so far I haven't heard anything that can't=
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be solved. Yes, some comments have been phrased discouragingly, but that=20
doesn't mean that solving the problems won't make the change happen.

We've had a fair bit of difficulty with CVS, and we've had to fix a number=
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of things. Given that we have a tool that meets many of our needs, I think=
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it's reasonable to expect the same (or almost the same) set of features=20
for anything that will replace it. And I don't really see that wanting a=20
comparable feature set really is being obstructionist.

> I rarely run 'cvs annotate' myself.

Oh, subversion doesn't have an annotate command? That really knocks it=20
down in my book. While I may not need the annotate command often, when I=20
need it, I really really need it. So I guess we'll wait for the subversion=
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folks to add it. :-)

Take care,

Bill

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