Subject: Re: SPAM Alert: Email Address Harvesting
To: Conrad T. Pino <>
From: Richard Rauch <>
List: current-users
Date: 01/03/2004 15:01:10
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 09:58:40PM -0600, Richard Rauch wrote:
> I think that Bruce is referring to my response re. the most pathetic argument
> he ever heard.  I don't know if that's better than not being worth reading.
> (^&

...since this is going on into a thread again, and I have seen an explicit restatement
of the proposition (modify *only* the *one* web-based archive), I will make a simple
observation, which stems from events since the last time this was discussed at length
on a list here:

In about August of this year, give or take a month, I started to get spam within
*seconds* of posting to one of the NetBSD lists.  Literally.  Not just one or two,
but multiple hits in quick succession, and from multiple sources I believe.  I
think that that's abated, though it's hard to be sure, as I've added a lot of IPF
rules to black out spam sources; they may just be getting their connections dropped
so they don't even show up in /var/log/maillog anymore.

A spammer may be culling from the (or any of the many other
archives).  But they have also almost certainly been *subscribed* to the lists.
Any effective mangling would have to be done before sending out email to sub-
scribers.  I haven't seen that proposed, and it would probably somewhat reduce
the usability of the lists.

Just a bit of new data and a conclusion.

I'll avoid repeating my other thoughts on the matter, save to reaffirm that I
still feel that what we have is preferable to what is proposed.

  "I probably don't know what I'm talking about."