Subject: Re: i386 bootselector changes
To: None <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Steven M. Bellovin <email@example.com>
Date: 10/23/2003 15:38:22
In message <20031023192523.GA6837@rek.tjls.com>, Thor Lancelot Simon writes:
>On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 02:22:10PM -0500, Eric Haszlakiewicz wrote:
>> well, my knee jerk reaction here is "deal with it. the keys are
>> only one row apart". On the other hand, I can understand how annoying
>> it can be to have to change a old ingrained behaviour. If switching
>> F1-F4 and 1-4 makes the common case now more similar to the common case
>> before, then I'd say go ahead.
>I don't agree -- it's basically impossible to know what key combination
>on a serial console will generate what the bootselector thinks is "F1";
>on some terminals, *there may be no such key combination*. I've had
>truly horrible experiences with this exact issue making it impossible to
>enter serial BIOS configuration screens without hooking up an actual AT
>Bear in mind that if one's using BIOS console redirection, we may not be
>able to tell if the console's "VGA" or "serial". I think the old behaviour
>was a serious bug, and that the change should stay.
Frankly, I prefer the old behavior. But your point about serial
consoles is very valid, and as far as I'm concerned settles the issue.
Let's stick with the new behavior.
--Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb