Subject: Re: devfs, was single user mode file comparisons
To: Greywolf <greywolf@starwolf.com>
From: Bill Studenmund <wrstuden@netbsd.org>
List: current-users
Date: 06/09/2003 14:48:52
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Greywolf wrote:

> Thus spake Bill Studenmund ("BS> ") sometime Today...
>
> BS> What exactly would hardwiring names mean?
>
> Means that sd0 will still point to one of (in order)
> - wherever I have hardwired it;
> - the first SCSI disk on the first SCSI bus probed.
>
> BS> As long as a device has the same locator, it would automagically get the
> BS> same name, ownership, and permissions. That's the point. :-)
>
> I wouldn't want, say, /dev/sd0a to shift locations on me.
>
> And I'm not enthused about referencing something I've known as sd0
> when it moves to sd1.

And what in all of this has indicated that what you describe would happen?

> BS> One open question, with anything that uses locators extensively, which
> BS> we don't really need solve until we get closer to code, is what happens if
> BS> we change locators/have a discrepency between the userland tree and the
> BS> kernel tree. This is a question of policy, so we'll need to be flexible.
> BS> My suspicion would be that if you get what looks like something moving
> BS> around, you just move it. For insance, you move your SCSI card over one
> BS> slot & either leave the old slot empty or put something else there, things
> BS> just adapt. Not sure what to do if the SCSI card just disapears..
>
> I'd have to see some more examples of this...

That comes across as a bit imperious. :-) How about asking concrete
questions?

Take care,

Bill