[ On Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 21:57:12 (-0700), Jason R Thorpe wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: migration to fully dynamic linked "base" system
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 12:09:44AM -0400, Greg A. Woods wrote:
> 
>  > In my mind shared libraries are always less than stable  :-)
> 
> Do you build your entire system *NOW* with LDSTATIC=-static?
> 
> My guess is "no".

Yes, I do [*].  xsrc and applications and everything.  Well, except for
mozilla -- I've no idea how to coerce it into building statically, and
no desire to learn or try either :-)

$ file /usr/sbin/httpd  
/usr/sbin/httpd: ELF 32-bit (SYSV) MSB executable, SPARC, version 1, statically linked, stripped
$ size /usr/sbin/httpd
text    data    bss     dec     hex     filename
1399056 76788   62980   1538824 177b08  /usr/sbin/httpd

(that's apache, with mod_ssl, built from pkgsrc with PREFIX=/usr)

[*] only my sparc systems so far, and one test i386, but slowly I grind
along -- alpha is next on my list, once I get my multias running again,
or if I luck into some surplus machines.

> In any case, you are free to live in the stone ages and use an all-static
> system if you want (even though it's not likely that you do it now).

"stone ages"? -- my system is significantly faster for many computing
jobs than any equivalent using primarily dynamic-linked binaries.  It's
actually quite refreshing to get good performance from software designed
to run on unix -- i.e. little programs and lots of processes starting
frequently, such as things written as scripts using lots of standard
tools.

It's also all the (nearly) current NetBSD code and all the features I
could ever want and then some.

If I had lots of free time I would like to try implementing kernel level
shared libraries just to see if that could help lower memory utilization
and maybe I/Os on systems where lots of different programs are often run
and thus setting ISVTX on them all wouldn't be an improvement.

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