Subject: Re: CVS commit: basesrc
To: Luke Mewburn <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Thor Lancelot Simon <email@example.com>
Date: 05/16/2001 10:02:23
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:47:55PM +1000, Luke Mewburn wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 04:50:01AM -0700, John Nemeth wrote:
> > On Aug 25, 7:48am, Luke Mewburn wrote:
> > }
> > } Module Name: basesrc
> > } Committed By: lukem
> > } Date: Wed May 9 16:41:00 UTC 2001
> > }
> > } Modified Files:
> > } basesrc/etc: rc.subr
> > }
> > } Log Message:
> > } * change wait_for_pids() to spin forever (rather than just ~ 65 seconds).
> > } * change the default `stop' case to wait_for_pids after kill $sig_stop.
> > } this means that "/etc/rc.d/foo stop" won't return until the service
> > } has shut down. third party scripts that implement their own stop mechanism
> > } should offer this functionality as well.
> > } * in the default restart case, don't bother doing `$0 poll' in between
> > } stop & start, because of the change above. (XXX: deprecate poll ?)
> > Yuck! I really don't like this change. This is one of the things
> > I hate about SysV. I have seen too many cases where some service fails
> > to stop and hangs the shutdown process. Murphy's Law means that
> > usually you are far enough along in the shutdown process that you can't
> > recover and have to hit the "big red button" which leads to problems
> > with things like corrupt filesystems. Processes that don't die within
> > a reasonable period of time should be killed with extreme prejudice.
> > If you're going to go this route, then you should at least make the old
> > behaviour an option.
> There's nothing stopping you from hitting ^C to interrupt the wait
> whilst rc.shutdown is running that script.
Oh, great, so I have to hit ^C on the console to get the system 3,000
miles away at which I typed "shutdown -r now" over the network to shut
This is completely stupid. Note that our init takes care to *not* cause
this problem, and always has -- you don't give arbitrary user processes a
veto about whether the system is being halted or not, that's asking for
And, all too often, finding it.