Resolution of netbsd.org is irrelevant (and, in fact, it *shouldn't*
work... that would just confuse people, since www., ftp., cvsweb.,
anoncvs., so forth are all CNAMEs pointing to other, real hostnames).

What's important is the domain's MX which (as you seem to have
discovered) is mail.netbsd.org:

> netbsd.org
Server:  allspice.cs.swarthmore.edu
Address:  130.58.68.10

*** allspice.cs.swarthmore.edu can't find netbsd.org: Non-existent host/domain
> set q=mx
> netbsd.org
Server:  allspice.cs.swarthmore.edu
Address:  130.58.68.10

netbsd.org      preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.netbsd.org
netbsd.org      nameserver = ns.netbsd.org
netbsd.org      nameserver = ns1.berkeley.edu
netbsd.org      nameserver = ns2.berkeley.edu
netbsd.org      nameserver = uucp-gw-1.pa.dec.com
netbsd.org      nameserver = uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com
mail.netbsd.org internet address = 155.53.1.253
ns.netbsd.org   internet address = 155.53.1.253
ns1.berkeley.edu        internet address = 128.32.136.9
ns1.berkeley.edu        internet address = 128.32.206.9
ns2.berkeley.edu        internet address = 128.32.136.12
ns2.berkeley.edu        internet address = 128.32.206.12
uucp-gw-1.pa.dec.com    internet address = 204.123.2.18
uucp-gw-1.pa.dec.com    internet address = 16.1.0.18
uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com    internet address = 16.1.0.19

Now, I don't think there's anything wrong with your sending mail to
mail.netbsd.org (since that's where it'll end up anyway), and I would
guess that the complaint against you came from someone having set
procmail up in a silly way (to him, I say, key off ^Delivered-To:.*
instead of ^TO), but if your local MTA can't figure out how to get
to netbsd.org's MX on its own, it is profoundly broken.

       ~ g r @ eclipsed.net

On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 09:13:35AM -0700, Paul Newhouse wrote:
> Platform i386 (among others)
> 
> Apologies if I'm wasting everybodies time with some thick headed idiotic mistake.
> 
> On 06/12/2000 10:38:11 Bernd Ernesti <netbsd@arresum.inka.de> wrote:
> 
> >P.S: It is current-users@netbsd.org and not current-users@mail.netbsd.org
> 
> When I post to mail.netbsd.org the posts show up in the archives.  When I
> send to netbsd.org the mail just dissapears (I never get a failure back it just
> never shows up in the archives).
> 
> I register my rockhead e-mail address for current-users (and a couple more) and
> I never get the confirmation requests.  
> 
> I recently had to rebuild my firewall after a harddisk failure, maybe I'm doing 
> something wrong BUT, I find that a number of DNS's can't resolve netbsd.org.
> 
>     > netbsd.org
> 	Server:  ns1.rockymtn.net
> 	Address:  166.93.1.3
> 
> 	*** ns1.rockymtn.net can't find netbsd.org: Non-existent host/domain
> 
>     > netbsd.org
> 	Server:  proxy1.stcla1.sfba.home.com
> 	Address:  24.1.4.12
> 
> 	*** proxy1.stcla1.sfba.home.com can't find netbsd.org: Non-existent host/domain
> 
> 	> netbsd.org
> 	Server:  baygate.bayarea.net
> 	Address:  204.71.212.2
> 
> 	> netbsd.org
> 	Server:  NS.AUTONO.NET
> 	Address:  209.48.2.11
> 
> 	*** NS.AUTONO.NET can't find netbsd.org: Non-existent host/domain
> 
> So what's what's up here???!!  I've tried this from work and from several friends 
> machines with different ISP's and they all see the same thing (or don't see the
> samething, however that's said correctly).  I get plenty of mail from other sources
> and a number spammers seem to be able to find me.
> 
> Confused as always,
> Paul Newhouse
> 
> newhouse@rockhead.com
> piminx@home.com