Subject: Re: RFC: Simple screen editor for NetBSD
To: Antti Kantee <>
From: Greywolf <>
List: current-users
Date: 01/12/2000 00:18:53
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Antti Kantee wrote:

# On Fri Jan 07 2000 at 18:40:56 +0000, David Brownlee wrote:
# > 	What do people think - should we do it, and can anyone suggest
# > 	a possible editor (ee from FreeBSD? - not looked at it)
# I don't fully agree with adding one, first of all it's bloat (yeah ;)
# and second of all it will probably make people less willing to learn to
# use a decent editor such as vi or emacs.

I didn't think that "vi" or "emacs" were designed to be used with the
words "decent editor" in the same sentence, the fact that I can use vi and
some subset of emacs proficiently notwithstanding :-).

The problem with designing a good editor is that you either have state (vi)
or you have metasequences for doing things (I'm really not fond of
pico's keybindings).  And that editor that everyone seems to be so crazy
about consumes far too many resources on older machines so as to be
nigh useless.

# The reasonable choises are perhaps as you say ee from FreeBSD and
# perhaps ae from Debian Linux. I haven't used either, so I can't really
# tell. Has anyone ported MS-DOS edit? ;)

By the way, speaking of DOS and edit and all that bitrot, has anyone
deemed it totally ghastly to implement an active mouse in console mode
(that code's been around for easily ten years in that capacity, by the way)
or is it one of those things that nobody's gotten to just yet?

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