Subject: Re: RFC: Simple screen editor for NetBSD
To: David Brownlee <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Oleg Polyanski <email@example.com>
Date: 01/08/2000 17:00:23
>>>>> "DB" == David Brownlee writes:
May be this editor should have EMACS keybindings too? I guess it
should simplify learning command line editing in shells etc. UNIX
software is influenced with EMACS key bindings very much and probably
this would be very useful for any new user.
I would suggest `jove' but it isn't perfect.. May be `jed'?
>> Hmm. There's this place using NetBSD, where no-one knows how to use
>> vi. It's always a challenge to get a new machine up and running when
>> you have to guide them keystroke by keystroke on the phone when they're
>> editing /etc/rc.confor /etc/group or doing vipw to get the system up so
>> I can log on from the network.
DB> Another good argument for having a simple editor present.
DB> Attempted summary of discussion to date:
DB> Reasons against:
DB> - If someone cannot learn vi, they should not be editing
DB> system files on unix.
DB> - sysinst should be able to install a simple editor.
DB> - small amount of bloat.
DB> Reasons for:
DB> - Guaranteed easy editor on all systems, docs can reference
DB> - Help novices
DB> - Help someone talking a novice through something
DB> - Can break out into a sysinst package when base system is
DB> split into packages anyway
DB> - Currently discourages new users from NetBSD initially -
DB> more likely to learn on another system and stay there.
DB> If the editor is present it should be:
DB> - In /usr/bin
DB> - Be simple to use, with cursor keys, and emacs like move
DB> - Not wrap long lines
DB> - Preserve uid/permissions on files
DB> Updates to the above welcomed.