Subject: Re: RFC: Simple screen editor for NetBSD
To: None <email@example.com>
From: der Mouse <mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA>
Date: 01/07/2000 22:20:11
>> Mode editors like vi and emacs increase the learning curve
> Maybe your definition of modal is different from mine (or maybe you
> use emacs in "viper" (vi emulation) mode). Unless I'm running gnus
> or vm, typing an "a" in emacs *always* inserts the letter "a" into
> the current buffer.
To paraphrase that last sentence slightly,
"Unless I'm in some other mode, typing a inserts an a".
Now, let me describe vi.
"Unless I'm not in insert mode, typing a inserts an a".
Run that by me again about how vi counts as modal but emacs doesn't?
Note also that this aside, emacs *does* have modes. Go and fire up
emacs. Don't run gnus or vm or anything like that. Now type ESC. Or
Now you are in a mode in which typing a doesn't insert an a.
> Also, when I run emacs it has menus at the top.
There is no such single thing "emacs". The emacs variant you run,
configured as you have it, has menus - but, for example, the emacs
variant I use probably could be made to have something menuish, but it
would be a major pain. Nobody who's mentioned emacs has specified
which emacs variant the remark applies to (this probably doesn't matter
in a practical sense, since I don't think anyone has actually
recommended emacs for inclusion.)
> (very often, the guys with the purse strings are "common (wo)men").
This points up something that's always been a great mystery to me.
Your average executive would never think of second-guessing expert
advice from an expert banker, or electrician, or plumber...but has no
hesitation ignoring a computer expert's advice on computers because
some ad campaign makes some other machine, OS, piece of hardware,
whatever, sound attractive.
The mystery, of course, is "why on earth is this?".
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