In message <19991130093850.A5158@goldberry.poofy.goof.com>, "Aaron J. Grier" wr ites: >So how do you output only -n? echo -n -; echo n? Seems silly. You don't, of course! This is why ksh has print, which has well-defined semantics everywhere, and why the \c, though uglier, is "probably right". -s