Subject: Re: better w(1)
To: Todd Vierling <>
From: Darren Reed <>
List: current-users
Date: 06/22/1999 15:13:41
In some email I received from Todd Vierling, sie wrote:
> On 21 Jun 1999, Chris Jones wrote:
> : matthew> i installed this a few weeks ago and it's great.  it looks
> : matthew> exactly like our w(1) except that it ignores utmp and uses
> : matthew> the process list to find out who is doing what on which tty!
> : matthew> most excellent.
> : 
> : Cool.  But there's definitely a reason that these programs (xterm,
> : screen, etc.) allow users to not create utmp entries.
> There's also a reason some of us admins don't want lusers to see us online
> without requiring some degree of tedium.  Sure, I wouldn't mind the
> process-based tty list to be a command line option of w(1), but as default,
> `yecch.'  I'm also Very Glad that talk(1) won't even attempt to talk to
> someone not in utmp.  (My .screenrc has `deflogin off' for a reason.  :)

Maybe you should be using a few `fake' accounts to mask your identity ? :)