Subject: BSD vs. POSIX (and other standards) vs. NIH
To: NetBSD-current Discussion List <current-users@netbsd.org>
From: Greg A. Woods <woods@most.weird.com>
List: current-users
Date: 03/19/1999 02:58:44
[ On Thursday, March 18, 1999 at 23:23:01 (-0800), John Nemeth wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: CVS commit: src
>
>      BSD, is a standard in its own right.  I personally, don't give a
> d*mn about POSIX, especially where it conflicts with BSD.  Where there
> is a conflict, I want BSD to come out on top.  If I wanted a system
> that was POSIX first and others second, I would be using Linux.

You sure know how to perpetuate a flame fest John!  ;-)

If you're really referring to the choice between csh and sh here then
you're so far out of line it's just not funny.  It really would be
better off dead and buried, though I won't go so far as to say
euthanasia is necessary (yet!).

In any case perhaps you should take a closer look at the published goals
regarding standards compliance for NetBSD and prepare to re-evaluate
your choice of favourites.

Normally speaking where BSD has offered good ideas real standards like
POSIX have incorporated them, though perhaps not without change (and
admittedly not always change for the good).  Same goes for all the
original and later AT&T UNIX features, right back to V7 and before.

Traditional BSD doesn't have anything much left to offer that's of any
redeeming value, at least nothing worth standardizing.

Where standards are lacking there's lots of room for new innovation --
we don't have to drag up old junk from the past just to fill a void.

Hopefully when that new innovation comes from somewhere else this
community of NetBSD will try to be more accepting and inviting too.

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							Greg A. Woods

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