Subject: Re: Suggestion: keep binary data out of /etc
To: Christoph Badura <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Simon Burge <email@example.com>
Date: 02/07/1999 10:14:16
On Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:26:14 +0100 (MET) Christoph Badura wrote:
> firstname.lastname@example.org (Simon Burge) writes:
> >I don't understand the objection here - grep _not_ printing binary data
> >was the reason I upgraded to the lastest version on my Ultrix/Solaris
> >work machines. I can't think of a _single_ case where the binary output
> >would be useful. You can always get the "normal" output with the new -a
> So tell me one thing. Since Unix doesn't have the concept of binary files
> (or rather -- since it treats all files as an opaque stream of binary octets
> -- no concept of non-binary files) how can grep possibly tell that a given
> file isn't a binary file?
The test that grep uses to decide if a file is binary is to look for a
NUL in the first 32k of the file (or the total file if it's less that
32k). Note that I'm not an international language specifist by _any_
stretch of the imagination, but this would seem like a valid test.
> Will that depend on some obscure environment variable?
> Will grep decide behind my back, that I don't really want to grep
> those Japanese text files I'm telling it to look for string in?
> Note also, that I grep object files regularly enough that having
> to remember that I now need -a for what has "just worked" for the last 15
> year would be utterly annoying to me.
Completely seriously - of what use can this be? When I've accidently
grep'd some sort of object file, more often than not my xterm needs to
have a full reset from the ctrl-middle-btn menu because text is now
invisible or something else. Pagers like more and less handle this
better - if this is what you do, would a compromise like a check of
> Perhaps you should work more with Windows to find out for yourself how
> annoying programs are which think they know better then you what is good for
> you. (That's where the reference comes from.)
No thanks, I value some semblance of sanity :)