On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:14:26 -0400 
 "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> wrote:

 > Robert Elz writes:
 > > Finally, yes, I know that making a change like that this breaks the
 > > ability of things like the -M arg to ps (the ability to do a ps of a
 > > crash dump).  Frankly, I don't care, and I doubt most users do
 > > either.
 > 
 > Fortunately or unfortunately, at the rate NetBSD kernel development
 > proceeds, lots of systems hackers are major users of these tools, and
 > have to analyse a lot of kernel core dumps. It is true that the users
 > don't care for themselves, but they should care in so far as they want 
 > their systems stable, which requires that the systems types be able to 
 > debug problems quickly.

Heh...

I'd certainly like to speak up for "Yes, I REALLY DO use ps(1) on crash
dumps!"

...and netstat, and other tools... all the time.

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