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>>>>> "Todd" == Todd Vierling <tv@pobox.com> writes:
    Todd> So posts to the newsgroups get bounced at the gateways until people get on
    Todd> the netbsd-nomail list?  Not quite acceptable, as we have no idea how many
    Todd> people or who read those newsgroups as opposed to the lists.

  a) Well, maybe we should find out.
  b) the moderator can subscribe the person to the netbsd-nomail list, it
	isn't that hard, and as you point out, it is easily automated,
	particularly at the moderator's side of things.
  c) A reasonable one-time price to pay to close the lists to spam. I'm
  willing to do a lot of work here. Ideally we could round-robin the
  moderator duty.

    Todd> How many times do you see posts to "netbsd-help" that start with the famous
    Todd> lines:

    Todd> "I have a question, and please copy all replies to me as I don't subscribe
    Todd> to this list...."

  How many times is the question a Windows 95 question?
  Maybe the netbsd-help list is one that we won't put under auto-moderation.

    Todd> :   Now, the list-owners will get deluged for a period with postings from
    Todd> : non-members until these people subscribe to netbsd-nomail with the email
    Todd> : address they are posting from. 

    Todd> And, as (Charles?  Jason?) so eloquently put it, they'll just go look for
    Todd> the penguin in the corner.  That's why restrict_post is so bogus in this
    Todd> case.

  Half the Linux lists that *I* read are closed.

    Todd> If restrict_post were more robust in that it already had the ability to
    Todd> automate netbsd-nomail such that a single post, bounced to the list by a
    Todd> listmomma, would activate the e-mail address, I'd buy it - reluctantly.

  I think such a think could be devised --- it is a good idea, and would help
everyone.

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