Subject: Re: A way to restrict_post NetBSD lists (was Re: Please make it stop.. )
To: Michael Richardson <email@example.com>
From: Todd Vierling <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: 06/11/1998 17:50:47
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Michael Richardson wrote:
: Jim> 2.) Gateways: Several sites provide local mail-to-news gateways
: Jim> for the NetBSD lists, which both reduces the amount of work the list
: Jim> servers have to do, and helps users to keep up with the high volume of
: Jim> lists like current-users. If we had a members-only policy, users at
: Jim> these sites would not be able to post questions to any of our lists.
: One can make a netbsd-nomail list, put that on the list of restrict_post.
: I see no reason to have a per-list nomail list.
So posts to the newsgroups get bounced at the gateways until people get on
the netbsd-nomail list? Not quite acceptable, as we have no idea how many
people or who read those newsgroups as opposed to the lists.
: Jim> 4) Try-before-you-buy: I strongly suspect that if your average newbie
: Jim> has to deal with the volume of current-users or even netbsd-users in order
: Jim> to get help with an initial install, they are going to go looking for a
: Jim> penguin instead...
: This has nothing to do with whether or not the lists are open or closed.
: What would be the point of sending messages to the list and never reading
: anything from the list?
How many times do you see posts to "netbsd-help" that start with the famous
"I have a question, and please copy all replies to me as I don't subscribe
to this list...."
: Now, the list-owners will get deluged for a period with postings from
: non-members until these people subscribe to netbsd-nomail with the email
: address they are posting from.
And, as (Charles? Jason?) so eloquently put it, they'll just go look for
the penguin in the corner. That's why restrict_post is so bogus in this
If restrict_post were more robust in that it already had the ability to
automate netbsd-nomail such that a single post, bounced to the list by a
listmomma, would activate the e-mail address, I'd buy it - reluctantly.
-- Todd Vierling (Personal email@example.com; Bus. firstname.lastname@example.org)