Subject: Re: copyright questions
To: Curt Sampson <>
From: Ted Lemon <>
List: current-users
Date: 06/15/1997 19:34:29
> Ok. It affects me directly and personally. On my price sheet, I
> have an item for installing a UUCP system on customer hardware for
> use at the customer site. At this point I may well be in violation
> of Chris's licence terms. I can't tell you for sure, because I have
> not spent, and will not spend, the hours necessary to find out.
> (I'd have to go through all the source files, find out which ones
> have Chris's new licence on them, and the figure out if any of them
> are used on the systems I'm installing.)

This is certainly the most compelling problem I've heard WRT Chris's
license.   However, you admit yourself that you're not very worried
about it.

A couple of points: by my reading of the license, you only have to do
this if your standard UUCP setup includes Chris's software.  In other
words, right now at least, runs on an Alpha.

Also, since this software is changing hands for free, at best all
Chris can do to you if you violate his copyright is get a court order
for you to cease and desist from doing so.  He can't show any monetary
damages, and to get punitive damages he'd have to show some evidence
of willfulness on your part.  A court would also question the
reasonableness to the license, and in the case you cite, would
probably find it unreasonable that it should require you to
acknowledge Chris.

Furthermore, before a court would issue a cease and desist order, some
evidence would probably have to be produced to indicate that Chris had
requested that you comply, and you had refused.  So until you have an
angry letter from Chris in your hands, you should be in the clear.