On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Ted Lemon wrote:

> This discussion has involved a variety of people asserting that the
> change is big, and a variety of other people asserting that it is not.
> As such, it has accomplished little.   I don't think anybody who came
> into the discussion thinking one thing has come out of it thinking
> another.

I for one, now know where to look for one of the more restrictive pieces
of legalese, if I were to need to do anything with the source besides play
with it. I also am reminded that there are some differences between
licensing and copyrights. I am also NOT IN total AGREEMENT with the
license and can see why the discussion is taking place. Also, because of
some of the terse messages, I have found out about NetBSD history,
something that I was curious about. (When I first started looking at,
well, un*x-like systems, I wanted to know why there were differences.)

> > This is the exact reason why the change should have been
> > discussed prior to its taking effect, and whether Core decided rightly
> > or not, they could have benefited from today's discussion.
> 
> How, by being bored to tears?

I, for one, have read all of the messages and feel that I have learned
quite a bit from the discussion, including some NetBSD politics.

> > I think the most positive thing to come out of this discussion is a
> > strong agreement that such documentation (and perhaps a forum for the
> > discussion thereof) is necessary.
> 
> That isn't a product of this discussion - it's been agreed that this
> is the right thing to do for a long time.   NetBSD core members and
> developers have been talking about it for quite some time now.

I guess I should sit back as a user and just let things happen? I'd like
to contribute as well, but unless you want me to lay out some glue logic
or a single-chip microcontroller for you, I am limited in my knowledge. I
guess one of my problems is that using NetBSD and trying to keep current
on events and on code has made me feel like I am part of something. Some
of the discussion (one person in particular) contradicts this feeling and
has made me feel like I'm an insignificant luser (and, yes, I meant to
spell it that way.) 

Well, at the very least, NetBSD has helped me learn vi.

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