Chris Demetriou writes:

>I also pointed out that if he'd [Jukka Marin] for example asked me to read his code
>-- rather than just randomly flaming to the mailing lists that the
>code didn't go in, and then pointing a finger at me when i tryed to
>indicate that maybe it wasn't all our fault -- that he'd have gotten
>a lot further than he has or likely will if he continues his current
>tack.

Ignoring the flame part for the moment...

But, Chris, you are the port master for the Alpha, if I'm not
mistaken, and the driver in question is for the i386[1][2].

If I were to submit a i386 driver, I would try to talk to the i386
port master and, failing to get a response, to Core.  But not to you.
Perhaps I'd send in a PR.

>Despite the thoughts of a few people, flaming the NetBSD developers is
>not the way to encourage their cooperation or get your source code
>into the tree.

Agreed.  However, I can understand Jukka's frustration on the issue
and think his reaction is an attempt to get any form of attention.

I, for one, have yet to receive a response in any way shape or form to
my mails to core@netbsd.org.  I don't intend to send mail to that
address again, as it seems to be a complete waste of time.  I have
also been mostly ignored by Charles in during the last year.
Espcially when he was speeking for Core.

I do realise that sometimes e-mail gets lost in a mail folders.  That
happens to me too.  However, I believe an effort should be made to
answer in some form, however short it is, all mail to core@netbsd.org.



[1] I don't know how many "current users" realise that you have been
working on i386 machines before you got involved with the Alpha port.

[2] I realise that the Cyclades driver is a candidate for a MI driver.
Especially since there is a PCI version of the board.
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