Subject: my notes from USENIX NetBSD BoF
To: None <current-users@NetBSD.ORG>
From: John Kohl <email@example.com>
Date: 01/30/1996 14:33:33
PK ran through a prepared set of slides about NetBSD, and fielded questions.
q: how much effort put into the project (man hours/years) ?
a: pk can't estimate, but "substantial"
q: 64-bit i/o support?
a: for a long time
a: can't do sun4m yet, but sun4 & sun4c are working. see the WiP session
on sun4m port progress/etc. (alpha testing now!)
current platforms (from slides): alpha (TC & PCI), amiga, atari, hp300
except 425/433, m68kvme, macintosh/68k, pc532, iAPX86, sparc, vax, pmax,
emulation list: add ULTRIX, HP/UX to the list
release plans: 2 per year minimum.
a: some communication to someone working on it, ...?
q: do you need other software to bootstrap the NetBSD port?
a: some machines do, some other do not. (i386 does not)
q: plans for public CVS tree access?
a: no definite plans (legal reasons for some of the contents which need
to be removed from public view before that could happen)
q(?): 12 machines in a MAN. have used both bsdi & freebsd & netbsd in
other situations. appears to be more cooperation/coordination
happening; he says he likes it. general applause.
q: freebsd guy here, in part to gauge the cooperation issue among the
freebsd/netbsd camps. lots of work done, lots of egos to step around
(which of two implementations to choose, etc.). user support is very
a: (PK) can't hurt to talk, at least keep interfaces uniform if we don't
throw out duplicates.
q: port masters/core/etc stand up, please?
a: they're in the back: cgd (alpha), ted lemon (pmax), jason thorpe
(hp300), jtc, christos
a: other folks: tls, herb (apollo), RT (?),
q: embedded system/small NetBSD?
q: 68hc11? groan.
a: someone was working on it, utah sources helped, didn't finish. no
current work. contact <firstname.lastname@example.org> if you want to volunteer
q: async i/o?
a: debate about best way: kernel threads, async i/o inside read/write
(new kernel interfaces)? in progress(?).
q: macintosh port?
a: runs pretty well (on older models, e.g. IIsi). web pages have details.
q: alpha port status, NT emulation?
a: runs on lots of hardware, on cgd's desk, etc. OSF/1 emulation
doesn't work--needs serious changes (pmap layer, etc.) to support
dynamic binaries. NT emulation? ROTFL.
q: ISA new world order?
a: "better" ISA, EISA, PCI code in the works (cgd's free time project).
adjourned at 19:47.