Subject: Re: "external software" (was Re: xntpd)
To: Peter Galbavy <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Thorsten Lockert <email@example.com>
Date: 01/02/1996 00:55:09
> > Considering that xntpd compiles out-of-the-box for NetBSD, I don't
> > really see any reason for putting it into the source tree. Far from
> > everyone is interested in running it...
> Analogy: "sendmail compile out the box, let's throw it out the source
> tree". "All this 4.4lite code compile out the box, let's throw it away".
> etc. etc.
sendmail is a neccecary part of most systems, unlike xntpd.
> Do you mean that as soon as all the work has been put into making
> the port maintainers of an excellent piece of software aware of
> the changes required that we should then ignore it as part of a
> distribution ? I would like to see *more* packages in the *standard*
> distribution to make it easier to install a complete system out of the
If anything, it should probably be put in othersrc, like eg. CVS which
also compiles out of the box... Some software are nice to have as
_optional_ software, like what you'll find in the packages directories,
> I also throw my nomination to the floor for the inclusion of Darren
> Reeds' excellent ip filter stuff. OK, the thing is a loadable
> module. Great. Now let me just patch each kernel source tree with
> the #ifdef surrounded changes... Another example of a member or
> core saying "I don't think this solution is elegant enough" without
> coming up with a timely alternative. I remember Darren offering
> the filter code last *SUMMER* guys. Where is the "official/pure/perfect"
> version from cofe ? Hello ? Anyone there ?
I, too, would like to see something like Reed's IP filter stuff in the
distribution, that would help make NetBSD more interesting to more
Provided, of course, that it has a reasonable copyright, preferrably
> (I am rapidly getting bored with the "NIH" this side of the *BSD frontier).
And it was not my intention to make it sound like I did not want any
support for eg. xntpd, I am just not sure that belongs as part of the
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